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the oldest and strongest human emotion

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is fear and the oldest and strongest

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type of fear is trepidation of young

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when we were children our parents told

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us that monsters didn't exist but we

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beer seeds even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of your king my

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name is lon stripper join me as I

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examine unexplained creatures strange

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manifestations and remarkable realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands seeking not

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from new territory but for new knowledge

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of the supernatural come on board as we

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begin this adventure together hey folks

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good evening and welcome to another

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episode of arcane radio where we explore

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the unexplained here on the paranormal

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king radio network

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I'm your host lawn Strickler coming to

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you with in a cannon shot of historic

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Gettysburg here in strange state of

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Pennsylvania thank you for joining me

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now before I introduce my guests I want

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to read narrative from a native ute who

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lives in the unit ah Oh ray reservation

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where an elder uten which was the Ricker

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a writers grandfather recalled his

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experiences in skinwalker Valley which

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is in the unit op base and where the

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infamous skinwalker ranch is located now

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he writes hi I'm about to tell you a

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story that's absolutely true

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my grandpa lived in Myton Utah they told

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stories about skinwalkers and how they

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could take the form of any animal or

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anyone you knew I asked him one day did

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you ever meet one he told me yes I asked

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when it was a very long time ago before

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you were even born before your mother

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was born it was when I was young and

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foolish I went to the valley the

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skinwalker Valley it's a valley where

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life never enters not even the crows the

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very guardians of death what will never

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go there they to fear the evil that

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lives out there and I continue with his

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story you I went out there to show

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people that nothing

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he will existed in the valley nothing

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but their fears but I was wrong he went

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on that he had gone to skinwalker Valley

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and he sold red Ford Ford truck to prove

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to everyone that what they thought they

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knew were just stories and used to scare

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them now when he reached the valley he

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remembered the grass was black as if it

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had been burned and survived a fire the

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trees looked dead but were still alive

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he told me that he had seen a house not

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far from where he stood there was a it

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was old and the roof had caved and the

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door was gone so he walked towards it

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there were strange marks on the side of

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the house animal skeletons were strewn

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about all around the property as if it

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was some type of sacred burial ground

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then he heard her his grandmother she

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had died long ago but he heard her

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the spirits were calling for him for his

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life for his skin for his blood and for

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his soul they were the lost souls that

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could change form from man to beast they

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they chased her scared him and told him

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that they would never forget him so

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whenever I visited my grandpa he would

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show me something that was brand-new but

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had been broken the next day these

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spirits would kill his animals so he

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they got to the point where I snapped

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that in telling those stories relize I

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told him prove it he turned around and

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pulled his shirt up and all I could do

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was gasp as I looked at his back there

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was torn here and there not one part of

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his back was unmarked there were wide

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claw marks to Street and too far apart

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to be made by human I was scared and

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running to see what was the matter she

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screamed and ranted at my grandpa as she

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held me but he did nothing but stare to

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feel across from the Rody's house he

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found she finally gave up and carried me

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inside but as I looked over my mother's

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shoulder I saw it a large black dog with

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white eyes it was watching grandpa and

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he was watching

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it never did I never saw that dog again

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said his heart gave out but I knew it

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was that was a lie his arm had fresh

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claw marks that was 42 years ago no one

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has ever believed me but it's a true

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event so I'll tell you so that the world

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will know never look into the

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skinwalkers eyes it will never forget

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you if you do sooner or later it will

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have your soul you can fight and refuse

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to then this uses you excuse me you can

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fight and refuse to give in to the

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skinwalker power but if that's the case

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and you hope you're not afraid to die

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this was something I received a while

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back it's an interesting story I thought

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I'd talk about it since the location

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where this happened was in the unit our

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Valley and unit our Basin which is or

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the actual skinwalker ranch is look at

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now now I don't know if it was the same

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location as the ranch but the

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reservation is right beside the ranch

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itself so who knows it's an interesting

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story so tonight I welcome

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cryptozoologist author narrator and

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musician Lau Blackburn talk arcane radio

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allow has written several clean books

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including the Beast of Boggy Creek

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lizard man and Momo the strange case of

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Missouri monster subject matter that

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reflects his long lifelong fascination

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with legends and citing reports of

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unknown creatures wiles also the founder

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of the rock band ghoul town and narrator

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producer of documentary films such as

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the Mothman of Point Pleasant boggy

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creek monster and the Bray Road Beast

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why was a frequent guest on radio

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program such as coast to coast am has

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been featured on numerous television

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shows airing on Animal Planet

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and Annie and one Lau isn't writing

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books or hunting monsters or performing

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with his band he can be found speaking

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at various cryptozoology conference

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and appearing out horror conventions

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around the United States

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his new book sinister swamps monsters

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and mysteries from Mayer is due to be

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released soon Lyle's website can be

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found at Lyle Blackburn comm so Lyle

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thanks for coming and joining me this

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evening thank you I hope my bio didn't

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take up the entire time no that's right

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he formally appeared at cryptid events

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because you know and all the events you

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were scheduled to be at oh I see the

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across across each one of them yeah I

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left them on there and just started

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marking abouts as people could see

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they're canceled but I think it's a it's

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a given you know yeah you know I think

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people are trying to do this remotely

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and but I don't know that you know I

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guess that there are mixed results with

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that but we have to wait and see

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hopefully this will get to a point where

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it's safe enough for everybody to get

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out there and attend these things but

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only time will tell

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that's true I mean it'll pass and you

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know maybe we'll have a renewed

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appreciation of being able to get

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together and have an event or you know

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that sort of things so maybe though

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it'll remind us that those are those are

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good things and well well I think that

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may very well happen I think that people

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do get out and start to attend these

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events again they will have a new

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appreciation for what they missed and

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the internet and videos for a certain

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amount of time you know even radio

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podcast for that matter so yeah we'll

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have to wait and see but hopefully we

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can get back to normal soon so your

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upcoming book is sinister swamps

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monsters and mysteries from the mire I

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love that title well tell us a little

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bit about

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the book and why you wrote it well you

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involved swampy territories and you know

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dabbled in that even the Beast of boggy

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creek in southern Arkansas it's kind of

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swampy out there and the lizard man and

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in the process of visiting all these

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swamps you know I just always thought

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that they were some of the most you know

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beautiful yet haunting places and you

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know I would always learn of other

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phenomenon that occurred even though you

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a cryptid case but but there was always

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other things and so over the last really

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over the last decade as I did some

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traveling and just research and this and

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that I began to kind of you know group

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them together different swamps would

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have all sorts of phenomenon and I

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thought you know this would be a cool

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thing to have a to examine some of these

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major swamps in North America that you

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know had a multitude of phenomenon and

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just instead of like sort of focusing on

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one sort of creature or one kind of

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phenomenon is just talk about these

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geographically and of course you know

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anytime you needed a spooky you know

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setting and scooby-doo or whatever it

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was always the swamp so you know I mean

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we all just love that sort of vibe that

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that the swamp has you know and it's

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about a location like that that's

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inherently kind of spooky and then talk

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about what is really some spooky stuff

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that goes on there from you know

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cryptids to ghosts to spook lights

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legends of you know cannibal which is

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and missing persons and lost villages

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just all that kind of stuff so as a way

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for me to be able to just finally kind

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of write about all those fascinating

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things that that I've always liked but

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never had a sort of a book where I could

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explore all of it yeah you and in fact

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you you've written a few books that and

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actually been a part of documentaries

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that talk about these swamp monsters a

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beast of Boggy Creek lizard man it does

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seem to be a lot going on out there and

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of course this lizard the lizard man

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phenomenon South Carolina is really you

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really outlined all the craziness

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involved with that phenomena right I

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mean you know in that case you had a

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sort of a creature from a Black Lagoon

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if you will kind of a creature and again

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just a swampy rugged territory where you

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know if some unknown creature were to

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exist these would be the places where

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cultivate or to settle you know in

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general and so even today they are the

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places where you have some especially in

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sort of you know rugged and shadowy turn

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terrain so I think it almost seems

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natural that a strange phenomenon is

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reported it's it's often in those areas

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pretty good variety of these swampy

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areas are these bottom lands where a lot

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of this phenomena has occurred you know

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actually the ones the the scariest

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encounters that I have ever read

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involved a smoker bottomland in eastern

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Kansas actually and where there's this

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gentleman who was actually withstanding

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it was in his tree stand

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had he I guess it was a bigfoot-like

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beast literally walk up to him and grab

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his foot why was in the tree stand he

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was up there deer hunting and you know

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that was almost like this thing is just

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developed out of the swamp and you know

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he had no idea of what it was

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but some of these stories are just

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really hair-raising which one is your

290
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favorite that's a hard one because the

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other they're just so really cool

292
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stories and you know what one of the

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ones that a little bit similar to that

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that I've as far as a sort of a cryptid

295
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or a ape-like creature was an open okie

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swamp of Georgia and back in 1972 there

297
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was a family out there camping and the

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young the teenage son you know went off

299
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down you know wandering off and

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exploring and he heard something in the

301
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bushes and you know some creeping around

302
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he thought maybe my sister followed me

303
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and they're playing a prank or whatever

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so he you know he just kind of assumed

305
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that it was nothing and went over there

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and then all of a sudden he hears this

307
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horrible terrifying shriek and this

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ape-looking thing you know comes out of

309
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the bushes and jumps on him and tries to

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desync it's you know rather sharp

311
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canines or fangs in you know biting him

312
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and he managed it to fend it off and

313
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then about that time in all his yelling

314
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his family came running up and scared

315
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this thing off and it jumped jumped

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across this Creek and ran off but

317
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obviously you know there's there's

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Bigfoot sightings and that's kind of you

319
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know startling enough if you see one but

320
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to have something jump out and to

321
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actually jump on you or grab you was

322
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kind of spooky and so that you know it's

323
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just one example of them and you know

324
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there's other there's other stories in

325
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the book of you know ghostly figures

326
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there was a guy in the Congaree swamp

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area of South Carolina that was doing an

328
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army training mission out there and it

329
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was dark and you know some ghostly

330
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things he sees it and it he thinks it's

331
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a yeah he thinks it's a person until it

332
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gets

333
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close and then realizes that it's not a

334
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you know a living thing and you know

335
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scares the guy to death and I mean this

336
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is a no movers in a rugged area so not

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easily frightened but stories like that

338
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you know you got your vanishing

339
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hitchhikers and your more stories of

340
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people being buried in swamps or there

341
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was a lot of cases where you know

342
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murders in the swamp and just there's

343
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all sorts of ghastly sort of things that

344
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only seemed natural in these swampy

345
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environments but yeah so the book yeah

346
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it's really hard to pick any one

347
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favorite because it just kind of

348
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meanders between all sorts of phenomena

349
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and all sorts of levels of spooky things

350
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whether it's something slithering in the

351
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water you know with the giant snake

352
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which you know could very well be a

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natural snake it's just large but when

354
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you see an environment like that it's

355
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scarier or you know is it something

356
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ghostly or something more you know

357
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unknown I am you did some heed the some

358
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of the outline of the book you talk

359
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about the Cato Triangle you know I'll be

360
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honest I had never heard of that before

361
00:17:33,230 --> 00:17:31,140
can you talk a bit about that well

362
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that's probably because I claimed that

363
00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:38,940
in this book okay in in it in the book

364
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of course I I kind of you know knowledge

365
00:17:48,530 --> 00:17:46,260
that we have the Bermuda Triangle of

366
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course everybody knows and the

367
00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:50,730
Bridgewater triangle which most people

368
00:17:54,650 --> 00:17:53,010
who study paranormal should should know

369
00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:54,660
about in Massachusetts in which I do

370
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cover Hockomock swamp which is probably

371
00:18:03,650 --> 00:18:00,660
Bridgewater triangle but I noticed that

372
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in the area here in the South between

373
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Arkansas Louisiana and Texas there's

374
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this very triangular shaped area that

375
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involved

376
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a long history of mostly cryptid

377
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activity so you know and I do say it's

378
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you know while doing the triangle

379
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obviously is a grander scale this is

380
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this is specific to sightings of sort of

381
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man ape southern Sasquatch type

382
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creatures but the way it broke out is

383
00:18:37,549 --> 00:18:35,549
because the top of the point is near

384
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boggy creek which you know the boggy

385
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:39,419
creek monster and then it goes over to

386
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an area in Louisiana that has a history

387
00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:44,309
of sightings that also inspired a movie

388
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which was called creature from Black

389
00:18:50,870 --> 00:18:48,809
Lake which was a movie in the 70s one of

390
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the better Bigfoot films and that then

391
00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:54,030
it goes West to Caddo Lake which is a

392
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very swampy spooky almost the most

393
00:19:06,140 --> 00:19:03,000
picturesque swamp certainly in the Texas

394
00:19:07,549 --> 00:19:06,150
area and then over into Louisiana and so

395
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:07,559
I just thought well you know this is a

396
00:19:11,030 --> 00:19:09,210
triangle and there's you're gonna

397
00:19:12,980 --> 00:19:11,040
discuss all this stuff so I'm I'm

398
00:19:16,780 --> 00:19:12,990
forwarding the idea that we'll call this

399
00:19:19,100 --> 00:19:16,790
the Caddo triangle well that sounds good

400
00:19:23,150 --> 00:19:19,110
it just seemed yeah there are a few

401
00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:23,160
triangles out there that's true yeah one

402
00:19:29,150 --> 00:19:25,440
of the one of the investigators on my

403
00:19:33,140 --> 00:19:29,160
team actually those right beside the

404
00:19:36,049 --> 00:19:33,150
green swamp and she she has gone in

405
00:19:38,659 --> 00:19:36,059
there a lot and of course she hasn't

406
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:38,669
been investigating the swamp ape or

407
00:19:46,669 --> 00:19:44,490
skunk ape for many years now so your

408
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:46,679
opinion what is this skunky I mean is it

409
00:19:52,820 --> 00:19:51,090
is it is there one area in Florida and I

410
00:19:56,930 --> 00:19:52,830
know people have said they've seen it in

411
00:20:01,400 --> 00:19:56,940
Georgia but is it is is it a specific

412
00:20:05,390 --> 00:20:01,410
type of Bigfoot or is it like a variety

413
00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:05,400
what's your opinion on that well you

414
00:20:11,620 --> 00:20:09,510
know to me it in sort of a casual

415
00:20:15,230 --> 00:20:11,630
knowledge of it

416
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:15,240
the idea that the skunk ape is something

417
00:20:19,340 --> 00:20:17,610
different than Bigfoot and a lot of the

418
00:20:24,220 --> 00:20:19,350
descriptions are always that it's more

419
00:20:26,150 --> 00:20:24,230
ape-like it's it could be smaller even

420
00:20:27,890 --> 00:20:26,160
if it stands up

421
00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:27,900
doesn't you know it's not necessarily

422
00:20:31,610 --> 00:20:30,240
seven or eight feet tall it's certainly

423
00:20:35,330 --> 00:20:31,620
not the big foot of the Pacific

424
00:20:37,250 --> 00:20:35,340
Northwest yet at the same time you

425
00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:37,260
really look at the witness statements

426
00:20:44,060 --> 00:20:40,710
they kind of vary between some of them

427
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:44,070
having you know a creature that appears

428
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:45,690
to be more ape-like but a lot of them

429
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:48,570
are just sort of your ubiquitous Bigfoot

430
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:50,730
sighting it stands upright it's walking

431
00:20:57,650 --> 00:20:54,930
on two legs it's covered in hair but

432
00:21:01,400 --> 00:20:57,660
certainly the height can vary as they

433
00:21:03,230 --> 00:21:01,410
all do really I mean my Bigfoot's if

434
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:03,240
they're if they do exist in small

435
00:21:08,690 --> 00:21:05,850
populations they got to grow up so no

436
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:08,700
Bigfoots they're not all just some you

437
00:21:15,710 --> 00:21:10,890
know standard size they're all going to

438
00:21:17,860 --> 00:21:15,720
vary just like humans and so that

439
00:21:20,300 --> 00:21:17,870
becomes a problem when in in

440
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:20,310
cryptozoology and trying to identify

441
00:21:28,550 --> 00:21:26,210
whether we have a phenomenon or that's a

442
00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:28,560
specific type of creature or is there

443
00:21:33,260 --> 00:21:30,240
multiple creatures and why are they

444
00:21:35,570 --> 00:21:33,270
described differently so I think if they

445
00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:35,580
were very consistent in the descriptions

446
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:37,140
it would be much easier to answer

447
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:40,050
because you know be like well that

448
00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:44,090
region just has this specific thing but

449
00:21:50,780 --> 00:21:47,370
it's it's just a hard answer because I

450
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:50,790
think that if they do exist I think

451
00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:53,490
they're multiple species of this sort so

452
00:21:59,420 --> 00:21:56,640
then Sasquatch all all down here in the

453
00:22:02,750 --> 00:21:59,430
southeast and conclude Florida and like

454
00:22:04,610 --> 00:22:02,760
you say you've got some people you know

455
00:22:08,540 --> 00:22:04,620
say well they're swamp apes in Georgia

456
00:22:11,030 --> 00:22:08,550
and a lot of it is just the local

457
00:22:12,500 --> 00:22:11,040
terminology for the creatures and it's

458
00:22:14,660 --> 00:22:12,510
not so much that the creature is

459
00:22:17,150 --> 00:22:14,670
different it's more like somebody sees a

460
00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:17,160
Bigfoot looking thing and when you see

461
00:22:22,850 --> 00:22:20,130
that in Florida or in that area people

462
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:22,860
just go oh it's a skunk ape or a swamp

463
00:22:28,030 --> 00:22:25,440
ape and so a lot of its just simply the

464
00:22:32,090 --> 00:22:28,040
terminology but ultimately they're all

465
00:22:35,650 --> 00:22:32,100
described very similarly or variations

466
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:35,660
that it's hard to pinpoint any one

467
00:22:40,430 --> 00:22:39,600
consistent attribute other than their

468
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:40,440
ape-like in there

469
00:22:47,980 --> 00:22:44,090
in here and they can walk on two legs

470
00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:47,990
yeah if I if I had to guess III believe

471
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:53,310
the the Bigfoot or Sasquatch or skunk

472
00:22:59,570 --> 00:22:56,010
ape that are seen around the the Mexico

473
00:23:01,400 --> 00:22:59,580
Gulf of Mexico area swamps of the United

474
00:23:03,770 --> 00:23:01,410
States from not say from Texas to

475
00:23:07,310 --> 00:23:03,780
Florida I think overall they're probably

476
00:23:08,990 --> 00:23:07,320
an indigenous species now you know our

477
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:09,000
flesh and blood or however you want to

478
00:23:17,210 --> 00:23:12,690
describe it is that your is that your

479
00:23:20,420 --> 00:23:17,220
assumption as well yeah it is because I

480
00:23:22,850 --> 00:23:20,430
mean having examined quite a number of

481
00:23:26,090 --> 00:23:22,860
sightings and interviewed quite a number

482
00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:26,100
of people because the the South is kind

483
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:28,110
of my area you know I mean they were all

484
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:30,930
places but you know these are the places

485
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:32,640
where I go more so obviously I've

486
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:35,970
interviewed more people and I just you

487
00:23:43,030 --> 00:23:40,050
know by and large no one is reporting

488
00:23:46,970 --> 00:23:43,040
anything that's sort of outside the

489
00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:46,980
abilities of a indigenous natural animal

490
00:23:51,650 --> 00:23:49,440
I mean I could do amazing things I mean

491
00:23:54,110 --> 00:23:51,660
people say I sort of disappeared and

492
00:23:56,570 --> 00:23:54,120
what-have-you but I mean Tigers can

493
00:23:58,820 --> 00:23:56,580
disappear into the woods and Cougars can

494
00:24:00,440 --> 00:23:58,830
they're there one second and they're

495
00:24:04,670 --> 00:24:00,450
like a shadow and this is the natural

496
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:04,680
abilities and so for me I mean without

497
00:24:09,290 --> 00:24:06,960
having any other proof and not to say

498
00:24:12,650 --> 00:24:09,300
that there isn't another opinion or

499
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:12,660
answer I I think that there they would

500
00:24:16,580 --> 00:24:14,610
be flesh and blood and I think the

501
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:16,590
difference is that we may see in the

502
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:19,370
southern version as opposed to perhaps

503
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:22,320
Bigfoot in this Pacific Northwest is

504
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:23,970
that they're living in a totally

505
00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:27,120
different environment where it's very

506
00:24:35,230 --> 00:24:31,980
hot and humid and swampy naturally if a

507
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:35,240
creature has lived there for you know

508
00:24:41,150 --> 00:24:39,930
thousands of years then they would adapt

509
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:41,160
to that you know and there would be

510
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:43,410
certainly maybe need to be smaller or

511
00:24:48,890 --> 00:24:45,930
they would need to be more ape-like in

512
00:24:53,050 --> 00:24:48,900
order to get around in that environment

513
00:24:54,499 --> 00:24:53,060
as opposed to just a mountainous region

514
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:54,509
in the Pacific

515
00:24:58,930 --> 00:24:56,129
Northwest so I think the difference is

516
00:25:01,959 --> 00:24:58,940
here are that they're a species of

517
00:25:06,049 --> 00:25:01,969
similar things but the the the

518
00:25:07,939 --> 00:25:06,059
environment has forced some adaptations

519
00:25:10,819 --> 00:25:07,949
and changes in those specific ones over

520
00:25:13,639 --> 00:25:10,829
the year yeah I totally agree I do

521
00:25:18,709 --> 00:25:13,649
believe that these cryptids that are

522
00:25:23,089 --> 00:25:18,719
found in or supposedly in the the swampy

523
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:23,099
areas are are kind of fit for the biome

524
00:25:28,659 --> 00:25:25,440
so to speak

525
00:25:34,129 --> 00:25:28,669
they adjust however they need to adjust

526
00:25:36,609 --> 00:25:34,139
and yeah I I do believe that myself as

527
00:25:41,899 --> 00:25:36,619
well as up in the Pacific Northwest

528
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:41,909
there just seems to be that there it's

529
00:25:48,499 --> 00:25:44,129
an area where they can you know they can

530
00:25:51,979 --> 00:25:48,509
actually live and and adjust to or be

531
00:25:54,949 --> 00:25:51,989
able to to hide and to just live their

532
00:25:56,619 --> 00:25:54,959
lives as opposed to you know sightings

533
00:26:01,219 --> 00:25:56,629
that are in other parts of United States

534
00:26:02,989 --> 00:26:01,229
so I agree we I think it they're just

535
00:26:16,309 --> 00:26:02,999
suited for that type of environment

536
00:26:18,979 --> 00:26:16,319
swamps yeah yeah just linger on yeah you

537
00:26:20,479 --> 00:26:18,989
know and there's so much it supposedly

538
00:26:23,869 --> 00:26:20,489
happens in the swamps

539
00:26:25,819 --> 00:26:23,879
it's just that cryptids and well and I

540
00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:25,829
guess when you talk about paranormal you

541
00:26:31,399 --> 00:26:28,529
can also tie in the occult because you

542
00:26:33,589 --> 00:26:31,409
need you hear all these stories and in

543
00:26:36,469 --> 00:26:33,599
fact I have had people send me stories

544
00:26:39,859 --> 00:26:36,479
in the past or reports of seeing some

545
00:26:41,689 --> 00:26:39,869
crazy stuff in swamps especially down

546
00:26:45,949 --> 00:26:41,699
the south like an Alabama or Mississippi

547
00:26:47,989 --> 00:26:45,959
where you know somebody will go into a

548
00:26:50,869 --> 00:26:47,999
swamp area and start seeing all kinds of

549
00:26:54,229 --> 00:26:50,879
crazy stuff like dolls hanging off of

550
00:26:57,609 --> 00:26:54,239
trees and you know all kinds of weird

551
00:27:02,859 --> 00:26:57,619
voices and glowing apparitions and

552
00:27:07,219 --> 00:27:02,869
strange creatures they don't recognize I

553
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:07,229
get I guess the majority of the the Gulf

554
00:27:11,210 --> 00:27:08,490
State swamps

555
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:11,220
or probably like that and that does pop

556
00:27:16,629 --> 00:27:14,850
up a look I guess you've run into a lot

557
00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:16,639
of that yourself

558
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:19,710
yes yeah I mean I know executive smoking

559
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:22,289
out like like the creepy dolls for

560
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:25,289
example that's yeah Barry Bear Creek

561
00:27:32,659 --> 00:27:29,850
swamp in Alabama which I cover you

562
00:27:34,340 --> 00:27:32,669
always have you know there's always some

563
00:27:37,399 --> 00:27:34,350
standard just like they almost always

564
00:27:39,529 --> 00:27:37,409
have you know sightings of a

565
00:27:41,539 --> 00:27:39,539
bigfoot-like creature they typically

566
00:27:43,879 --> 00:27:41,549
have some ghostly activity from

567
00:27:48,019 --> 00:27:43,889
everything from seeing native Native

568
00:27:53,090 --> 00:27:48,029
American type goes to you know modern

569
00:27:55,810 --> 00:27:53,100
looking dressed people and then and you

570
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:55,820
have those oddball things you know that

571
00:28:01,159 --> 00:27:58,559
there's not a lot of accounts of it but

572
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:01,169
they're just really weird you know dolls

573
00:28:08,299 --> 00:28:05,730
and people seeing you know something

574
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:08,309
that's howling with a strange voice or

575
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:11,600
you know a sighting of a strange bird

576
00:28:18,289 --> 00:28:15,289
type of a creature almost prehistoric

577
00:28:20,859 --> 00:28:18,299
type things or in one case there's a

578
00:28:23,389 --> 00:28:20,869
swamp in Texas called the otai and swamp

579
00:28:25,009 --> 00:28:23,399
which Texas you wouldn't think would be

580
00:28:28,669 --> 00:28:25,019
very swampy but if this is a really

581
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:28,679
bizarre location this swampy is sort of

582
00:28:34,249 --> 00:28:31,110
in the middle of nowhere out in the

583
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:34,259
middle of sort of a dry arid area and

584
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:36,809
within that swamp there's you know

585
00:28:42,289 --> 00:28:38,970
legends of in sightings of a creature

586
00:28:44,629 --> 00:28:42,299
that it's almost kind of shimmers or

587
00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:44,639
it's it's black it's so dark and black

588
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:48,240
it just blends in and while one moment

589
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:51,360
it sounds sort of Bigfoot ask it's

590
00:28:56,060 --> 00:28:53,129
certainly something different and

591
00:28:58,369 --> 00:28:56,070
something that you just can't quite

592
00:29:03,109 --> 00:28:58,379
explain but you know you and I

593
00:29:04,999 --> 00:29:03,119
interviewed a very solid rational

594
00:29:07,129 --> 00:29:05,009
credible witness that had seen something

595
00:29:10,909 --> 00:29:07,139
down there in this area and I you know

596
00:29:12,980 --> 00:29:10,919
you just can't dismiss that you know

597
00:29:16,940 --> 00:29:12,990
this isn't just all old legends and

598
00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:16,950
stuff it's literally modern witnesses

599
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:18,480
seeing something that nobody can quite

600
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:20,730
explain and swamps certainly have their

601
00:29:24,730 --> 00:29:21,970
share of those

602
00:29:28,330 --> 00:29:24,740
yeah I'm hoping we can follow up on that

603
00:29:31,870 --> 00:29:28,340
because I did refer those settings to

604
00:29:38,789 --> 00:29:31,880
you and the ones that I'm talking about

605
00:29:41,380 --> 00:29:38,799
are the ones in who regard parish and

606
00:29:45,070 --> 00:29:41,390
they're at but some upright canine

607
00:29:47,260 --> 00:29:45,080
sightings there recently and like you

608
00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:47,270
said the very credible witnesses and

609
00:29:53,799 --> 00:29:50,080
some of the settings are pretty

610
00:29:56,350 --> 00:29:53,809
horrifying I have actually so yeah I

611
00:29:59,799 --> 00:29:56,360
agree with you those those areas there's

612
00:30:02,169 --> 00:29:59,809
kind of out of the place areas and you

613
00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:02,179
know like you said you know that you're

614
00:30:06,580 --> 00:30:04,760
talking about that specific creature or

615
00:30:10,390 --> 00:30:06,590
cryptid it almost has like a

616
00:30:12,789 --> 00:30:10,400
supernatural aspect to it done it yeah

617
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:12,799
they really did I mean he's getting into

618
00:30:21,870 --> 00:30:18,530
those type things and they do you know

619
00:30:26,250 --> 00:30:21,880
gets outside of the bounds of what seems

620
00:30:31,210 --> 00:30:26,260
biologically logical or natural in that

621
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:31,220
always you know begs the question are

622
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:34,850
these biological entities we're looking

623
00:30:39,730 --> 00:30:37,730
at or they you know are they something

624
00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:39,740
beyond that because those are the ones

625
00:30:45,130 --> 00:30:41,679
that usually are associated with

626
00:30:48,370 --> 00:30:45,140
abilities or some strange twist that

627
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:48,380
aren't are just your average thing you

628
00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:49,970
know they didn't just walk by and then

629
00:30:56,860 --> 00:30:52,159
just walked into the woods they they

630
00:31:00,100 --> 00:30:56,870
shimmer or they they appear in certain

631
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:00,110
you know conditions of the moon and

632
00:31:04,090 --> 00:31:02,510
what-have-you so then those are fun to

633
00:31:07,899 --> 00:31:04,100
investigate because obviously they're

634
00:31:11,020 --> 00:31:07,909
they're spooky and they kind of stand

635
00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:11,030
out I think than others but then all

636
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:12,590
that area in Louisiana I mean I could

637
00:31:19,450 --> 00:31:14,210
probably write a swamp book just on

638
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:19,460
losing yeah yeah there's so much stuff

639
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:24,289
you just kind of have to find areas

640
00:31:28,210 --> 00:31:26,690
where there's a concentration of it but

641
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:28,220
certainly where are those in the

642
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:31,370
Beauregard Parrish area there are

643
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:34,640
sightings of sort of your rougarou type

644
00:31:38,020 --> 00:31:36,320
stuff and you've got your you know a

645
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:38,030
long history of Bigfoot sightings that

646
00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:40,610
run up and down the Sabine River yeah in

647
00:31:50,169 --> 00:31:44,720
that area so it it's definitely a good

648
00:31:52,299 --> 00:31:50,179
area well though and the one the one I

649
00:31:53,980 --> 00:31:52,309
guess you can call cryptid though I mean

650
00:31:56,110 --> 00:31:53,990
I've heard people say it's actually

651
00:31:58,180 --> 00:31:56,120
there all these big Panther sightings

652
00:32:00,970 --> 00:31:58,190
that have been down in there as well and

653
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:00,980
it's interesting because both both

654
00:32:06,940 --> 00:32:04,490
witnesses who you know are like 20 miles

655
00:32:09,070 --> 00:32:06,950
apart from each other but they both have

656
00:32:14,590 --> 00:32:09,080
actually witnessed these Black Panthers

657
00:32:16,330 --> 00:32:14,600
and you know I assume that they there

658
00:32:18,190 --> 00:32:16,340
they are there you know you know I've

659
00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:18,200
heard of Black Panthers or melanistic

660
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:21,950
Panthers in Florida before I don't know

661
00:32:25,930 --> 00:32:24,080
if that is but this this particular one

662
00:32:31,690 --> 00:32:25,940
seems to have some pretty good size to

663
00:32:34,570 --> 00:32:31,700
it so I guess I guess it's possible and

664
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:34,580
actually anything down there that you

665
00:32:43,060 --> 00:32:39,250
believe is very possible I mean you know

666
00:32:45,899 --> 00:32:43,070
so yeah yeah yeah yeah and I mean I've

667
00:32:52,149 --> 00:32:45,909
I've got the same kind of stories where

668
00:32:54,060 --> 00:32:52,159
you know the Black Panther which you

669
00:32:57,789 --> 00:32:54,070
know it's people not familiar with that

670
00:32:59,500 --> 00:32:57,799
the when will refer to a Panther it's a

671
00:33:03,149 --> 00:32:59,510
mountain lion or a cougar

672
00:33:06,430 --> 00:33:03,159
as opposed like a Jaguar or Leopard and

673
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:06,440
though those a melanistic version which

674
00:33:12,850 --> 00:33:08,330
has no color that would be black are

675
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:12,860
said to not exist so that's the

676
00:33:17,850 --> 00:33:15,530
conundrum because you know scientists

677
00:33:20,350 --> 00:33:17,860
and game wardens they're adamant that

678
00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:20,360
there's no such thing as a black cougar

679
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:23,510
yet I've got a number of witnesses over

680
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:25,039
in honey island swamp where you've got

681
00:33:30,399 --> 00:33:27,049
the honey island swamp monster just

682
00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:30,409
investigating that as a byproduct a lot

683
00:33:35,889 --> 00:33:32,270
of the guys go well I haven't seen that

684
00:33:37,690 --> 00:33:35,899
but hey I saw a black panther yeah these

685
00:33:40,990 --> 00:33:37,700
are these are hunters they know what

686
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:41,000
they're looking at I mean you know but

687
00:33:46,690 --> 00:33:43,370
thus far no proof but it's definitely a

688
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:46,700
phenomenon that kind of coexist I think

689
00:33:53,060 --> 00:33:48,450
almost with sightings

690
00:33:57,650 --> 00:33:53,070
other creatures you know well you know

691
00:33:59,360 --> 00:33:57,660
during the Katrina I I heard a lot of

692
00:34:02,530 --> 00:33:59,370
different stories of what people were

693
00:34:05,390 --> 00:34:02,540
seeing swimming around in the water or

694
00:34:08,630 --> 00:34:05,400
showing up in the outskirts of New

695
00:34:10,010 --> 00:34:08,640
Orleans even further out and black

696
00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:10,020
panther was definitely one of those

697
00:34:17,659 --> 00:34:13,280
animals that people were seeing and uh

698
00:34:20,899 --> 00:34:17,669
you know in fact I also there's also a

699
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:20,909
story that I came very verify but of

700
00:34:25,820 --> 00:34:23,850
like lizard man type beings as well I

701
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:25,830
don't know what you have heard but I

702
00:34:35,770 --> 00:34:28,110
there seem to have been a lot of things

703
00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:35,780
going on yeah yeah a lot of that so

704
00:34:39,889 --> 00:34:38,220
let's talk about another well you talk

705
00:34:43,340 --> 00:34:39,899
about honey Isle and of course that's in

706
00:34:46,030 --> 00:34:43,350
Louisiana and Oh Great Dismal not Great

707
00:34:53,889 --> 00:34:46,040
Dismal people aren't familiar with it is

708
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:53,899
is Southeast Virginia and Northeast

709
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:57,090
North Carolina it's kind of a it's a

710
00:35:01,490 --> 00:34:59,760
huge swamp but there are a lot of

711
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:01,500
strange stories are coming out there and

712
00:35:06,770 --> 00:35:04,290
I see your notes here about canids I

713
00:35:11,060 --> 00:35:06,780
don't know if I've ever receive a candid

714
00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:11,070
report tell us a bit about that the yeah

715
00:35:16,580 --> 00:35:14,190
those are some of the older well I'd say

716
00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:16,590
some some of those are older and some of

717
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:19,560
those are newer you write the Great

718
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:23,520
Dismal just a huge area in our and

719
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:25,530
almost when people envision sort of a

720
00:35:31,460 --> 00:35:28,010
swamp with this cypress trees and the

721
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:31,470
you know the ghostly Spanish moss Great

722
00:35:38,350 --> 00:35:33,890
Dismal you know really captures that

723
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:38,360
vibe and some years of daily walking the

724
00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:41,370
like the eighteen hundreds it was a rash

725
00:35:49,850 --> 00:35:45,480
of sightings of a sort of a huge black

726
00:35:52,580 --> 00:35:49,860
dog and this was documented by a lot of

727
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:52,590
newspapers and of course you know it's

728
00:35:57,740 --> 00:35:55,650
one of those cases where the the people

729
00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:57,750
living in and among a small town near

730
00:36:01,540 --> 00:35:59,330
the swamp

731
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:01,550
I have to try to set out to hunt this

732
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:03,200
thing down and it would always kill

733
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:06,290
livestock and dogs and people fear that

734
00:36:11,830 --> 00:36:09,890
it would attack a person and you know

735
00:36:13,630 --> 00:36:11,840
for a while it would cause a lot of

736
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:13,640
problems and then they you know the

737
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:15,410
theory was it lived in a swamp and

738
00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:17,930
eventually it would sort of disappear

739
00:36:25,420 --> 00:36:21,640
and so I thought it was somewhat AI

740
00:36:27,790 --> 00:36:25,430
ironic or coincidental that you had a

741
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:27,800
history of that documented in the

742
00:36:35,020 --> 00:36:29,570
newspaper some years back in the Great

743
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:35,030
Dismal and then in modern times several

744
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:39,650
years ago there was a family that lived

745
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:42,650
on the edge of the swamp and the young

746
00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:46,250
man who lived in the house reported

747
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:50,260
seeing what he described as sort of a a

748
00:37:00,010 --> 00:36:55,280
wolf like human thing look at look

749
00:37:02,260 --> 00:37:00,020
through the window at him very you know

750
00:37:06,070 --> 00:37:02,270
not only live next to a swamp but you

751
00:37:10,750 --> 00:37:06,080
have this basically a dog man look at

752
00:37:12,370 --> 00:37:10,760
you through the window and that was that

753
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:12,380
was kind of a creepy sighting and that

754
00:37:16,420 --> 00:37:14,960
wasn't good at this one I don't think

755
00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:16,430
that's one that's been documented on

756
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:20,350
some dog man report areas as well but

757
00:37:25,870 --> 00:37:22,850
but yeah that's that's just some of the

758
00:37:29,140 --> 00:37:25,880
stuff going on that you can kind of tie

759
00:37:33,310 --> 00:37:29,150
into things that had happened in the

760
00:37:35,530 --> 00:37:33,320
past and things that happen in present

761
00:37:37,660 --> 00:37:35,540
times though again not something that

762
00:37:39,850 --> 00:37:37,670
there's not a lot of sightings you know

763
00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:39,860
it's not going on every day but it's

764
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:41,510
something that pops up every once in a

765
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:44,330
while it's just spooky enough to make

766
00:37:50,830 --> 00:37:47,690
you wonder what could be living out you

767
00:37:53,860 --> 00:37:50,840
know in the center of that swamp yeah

768
00:37:56,650 --> 00:37:53,870
you know now that I think about it and

769
00:37:59,110 --> 00:37:56,660
of course which would Cathy and I have

770
00:38:01,360 --> 00:37:59,120
been looking into this a breaking on

771
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:01,370
phenomena here in Pennsylvania for a

772
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:02,450
couple years now

773
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:05,510
and it does seem in it I'd say a

774
00:38:10,180 --> 00:38:07,250
majority of the sightings that we have

775
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:10,190
received have been in swampy areas your

776
00:38:16,730 --> 00:38:13,170
bottom line which I never

777
00:38:19,609 --> 00:38:16,740
we've been able to figure out I don't

778
00:38:22,970 --> 00:38:19,619
know why that is

779
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:22,980
I guess it's it's you know someplace

780
00:38:27,170 --> 00:38:24,450
where they can hide they just know

781
00:38:30,130 --> 00:38:27,180
people aren't going to come in there but

782
00:38:35,890 --> 00:38:30,140
it does seem that does seem to be an

783
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:35,900
area where they seem to they hang out it

784
00:38:42,410 --> 00:38:39,569
yeah I think it's it's possibly just the

785
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:42,420
nature of those areas because you know

786
00:38:48,260 --> 00:38:45,839
as we expand our urban and civilized

787
00:38:50,780 --> 00:38:48,270
developments in modern times and those

788
00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:50,790
swampy areas still kind of remain the

789
00:38:56,270 --> 00:38:53,359
most undeveloped areas aside from say

790
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:56,280
you know mountains or you know

791
00:39:01,880 --> 00:38:59,280
Appalachians or what-have-you but as far

792
00:39:03,230 --> 00:39:01,890
as you know pockets in the south those

793
00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:03,240
are just some of the places that you

794
00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:05,760
can't very easily develop and so they

795
00:39:14,270 --> 00:39:10,380
remain the one place where if you know

796
00:39:16,099 --> 00:39:14,280
strange mysterious creatures do exist

797
00:39:20,859 --> 00:39:16,109
that's where they could kind of retreat

798
00:39:24,289 --> 00:39:20,869
or live within that and yeah you know it

799
00:39:26,990 --> 00:39:24,299
and I mean you know all on top of that

800
00:39:29,809 --> 00:39:27,000
you know you've got to have an area with

801
00:39:34,910 --> 00:39:29,819
a lot of water and a lot of food sources

802
00:39:38,030 --> 00:39:34,920
and you know something the size of a you

803
00:39:40,730 --> 00:39:38,040
know a dog man or a Bigfoot would have a

804
00:39:42,740 --> 00:39:40,740
lot of trouble living say in some parts

805
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:42,750
of Texas you know in the central area

806
00:39:47,930 --> 00:39:45,839
but um just simply because there's not

807
00:39:50,539 --> 00:39:47,940
enough cover there's not enough food

808
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:50,549
source for such a big you know a big

809
00:39:56,829 --> 00:39:54,930
entity but whereas you've got a swampy

810
00:39:59,900 --> 00:39:56,839
bottom land you've got a lot of

811
00:40:01,849 --> 00:39:59,910
seclusion you've got plenty of food

812
00:40:05,660 --> 00:40:01,859
you've got plenty of water it just makes

813
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:05,670
a lot of sense why we would have a lot

814
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:09,089
of reports in those areas it kind of

815
00:40:18,190 --> 00:40:15,210
seems logical you know the one the one

816
00:40:21,530 --> 00:40:18,200
thing it really fascinates me a lot is

817
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:21,540
the the Everglades Big Cypress and these

818
00:40:26,930 --> 00:40:24,510
invading species what is gonna

819
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:26,940
eventually come out of there because of

820
00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:29,730
this do you believe it's possible that

821
00:40:36,349 --> 00:40:32,630
some type of hybrid beast would would

822
00:40:40,849 --> 00:40:36,359
develop in those areas but called all

823
00:40:42,859 --> 00:40:40,859
the invading species well I mean I

824
00:40:48,349 --> 00:40:42,869
suppose if you have the right to

825
00:40:50,780 --> 00:40:48,359
combinations you could and surely just

826
00:40:55,220 --> 00:40:50,790
the nature of an invasive species like

827
00:40:57,530 --> 00:40:55,230
the Burmese pythons or for example can

828
00:41:02,329 --> 00:40:57,540
get in there and again you've got a

829
00:41:05,809 --> 00:41:02,339
swampy area where it nature he runs out

830
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:05,819
of control and they they breathe so

831
00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:08,400
quickly that suddenly they don't have

832
00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:10,260
any natural predators they're just

833
00:41:17,870 --> 00:41:14,520
totally out of hand and so while pythons

834
00:41:20,990 --> 00:41:17,880
are not you know not an unproven species

835
00:41:25,940 --> 00:41:21,000
of it by any means they suddenly are

836
00:41:29,180 --> 00:41:25,950
able to breed and they have so much food

837
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:29,190
that they just become huge and to the

838
00:41:37,069 --> 00:41:32,490
point where obviously the locals are in

839
00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:37,079
fear for you know children or say people

840
00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:38,910
that live near the edges of these places

841
00:41:45,049 --> 00:41:42,900
these things could eat a person in you

842
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:45,059
know you know part of the Sinister

843
00:41:51,980 --> 00:41:48,450
swamps is literally the things that can

844
00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:51,990
breed and they're from you know just

845
00:41:56,270 --> 00:41:54,630
just the availability of food and

846
00:41:58,789 --> 00:41:56,280
resources and then suddenly becomes

847
00:42:01,609 --> 00:41:58,799
monstrous unto itself such as these

848
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:01,619
pythons and you know of course the

849
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:03,359
Everglades you've got the ever-popular

850
00:42:10,809 --> 00:42:07,650
theories of or tails of an alligator man

851
00:42:16,730 --> 00:42:10,819
or alligator people you see that a lot

852
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:16,740
almost sighted on a lot of you know in

853
00:42:22,579 --> 00:42:19,680
cursory mentions on blogs or in books

854
00:42:24,859 --> 00:42:22,589
but of course I went specifically to

855
00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:24,869
find how are there are sightings of

856
00:42:30,370 --> 00:42:27,510
quote alligator people which would sort

857
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:30,380
of be some kind of a hybrid I guess I

858
00:42:35,809 --> 00:42:32,880
mean I guess different than a lizard man

859
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,819
but you know invite what I discovered

860
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:37,680
was that there's not necessarily

861
00:42:44,539 --> 00:42:42,960
again just a long list of sightings of

862
00:42:47,690 --> 00:42:44,549
something like that you could always

863
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:47,700
find one or two fairly credible ones

864
00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:50,880
that you just couldn't explain or that

865
00:42:59,180 --> 00:42:55,730
just was so bizarre of creatures that

866
00:43:03,440 --> 00:42:59,190
didn't really mean for example is this

867
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:03,450
sort of an alligator bipedal type

868
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:08,730
alligator thing not so much that it's

869
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:11,130
humanoid it's just that it it's not a

870
00:43:15,490 --> 00:43:13,650
typical alligator or they can rise up on

871
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:15,500
two legs and it looks yeah prius

872
00:43:22,210 --> 00:43:17,760
prehistoric so you would have that where

873
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:22,220
it's like not so fanciful but just

874
00:43:27,019 --> 00:43:25,529
plausible enough to go man if there's

875
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:27,029
something like that in there i don't

876
00:43:35,329 --> 00:43:32,730
want to see it yeah i mean i do wonder

877
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:35,339
about that i mean is it possible for

878
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:37,170
like you said the alligators to be able

879
00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:42,000
to adapt to be able to become bipedal

880
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:44,700
even just for a short period of time but

881
00:43:51,620 --> 00:43:49,410
that does seem to be one scary phenomena

882
00:43:53,450 --> 00:43:51,630
I wouldn't ever want to run across it's

883
00:43:54,829 --> 00:43:53,460
just like these upright canines I don't

884
00:43:57,799 --> 00:43:54,839
think I'd ever want to run across one

885
00:43:59,390 --> 00:43:57,809
loses you either because you know some

886
00:44:02,269 --> 00:43:59,400
of the reports we received over the

887
00:44:05,660 --> 00:44:02,279
years or just plain scary I mean they

888
00:44:08,059 --> 00:44:05,670
really are and you know unlike a Bigfoot

889
00:44:11,870 --> 00:44:08,069
or something else these things don't

890
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:11,880
seem to want to back off they do stand

891
00:44:20,380 --> 00:44:17,359
their ground so your nose I think I

892
00:44:23,450 --> 00:44:20,390
think there's just something to that

893
00:44:26,089 --> 00:44:23,460
it's ingrained in our human psyche that

894
00:44:32,029 --> 00:44:26,099
if something can stand up on two legs

895
00:44:35,569 --> 00:44:32,039
like we can suddenly it's that is

896
00:44:38,839 --> 00:44:35,579
frightening like lizard man lizard man

897
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:38,849
dog man alligator people I think we've

898
00:44:42,980 --> 00:44:40,710
gotten our mind around Bigfoot

899
00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:42,990
I mean Bigfoot obviously stand two feet

900
00:44:49,279 --> 00:44:46,529
two legs bipedal but I think we've kind

901
00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:49,289
of almost culture alized Bigfoot to

902
00:44:53,739 --> 00:44:50,329
where

903
00:44:57,219 --> 00:44:53,749
it's the thought of it isn't as scary as

904
00:44:59,439 --> 00:44:57,229
thinking about a dog man or a lizard man

905
00:45:03,039 --> 00:44:59,449
those are just frightening things that

906
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:03,049
we just don't know enough about whereas

907
00:45:10,289 --> 00:45:08,209
now if you saw a Bigfoot in the woods no

908
00:45:14,109 --> 00:45:10,299
matter you mean it would erase all

909
00:45:15,429 --> 00:45:14,119
whatever fuzzy warm Peas he may have a

910
00:45:17,529 --> 00:45:15,439
bit because it would be certainly

911
00:45:19,809 --> 00:45:17,539
startling but I think if he saw a dog

912
00:45:23,699 --> 00:45:19,819
man obviously and I think something that

913
00:45:26,469 --> 00:45:23,709
was more aggressive would be ultimately

914
00:45:30,910 --> 00:45:26,479
disturbing I mean it would just be it

915
00:45:32,349 --> 00:45:30,920
could mess you up yeah you know I uh of

916
00:45:34,749 --> 00:45:32,359
course I've been looking into this

917
00:45:39,299 --> 00:45:34,759
winged humanoid wink with the phenomena

918
00:45:43,059 --> 00:45:39,309
now more recently and have there been

919
00:45:45,279 --> 00:45:43,069
sightings of these type of cryptids in

920
00:45:49,059 --> 00:45:45,289
these swampy areas as well had you run

921
00:45:53,669 --> 00:45:49,069
across and their stories yeah those in

922
00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:53,679
the case of the Hockomock swamp and in

923
00:46:00,009 --> 00:45:57,049
thinking the Great Dismal especially in

924
00:46:02,109 --> 00:46:00,019
hakama you had a good amount of

925
00:46:09,479 --> 00:46:02,119
sightings that have been documented of

926
00:46:14,439 --> 00:46:09,489
people seeing flying mostly in terms of

927
00:46:17,979 --> 00:46:14,449
prehistoric looking like others like

928
00:46:21,370 --> 00:46:17,989
pterosaurs sometimes Thunderbirds mostly

929
00:46:22,660 --> 00:46:21,380
pterosaurs which kind of almost makes a

930
00:46:24,219 --> 00:46:22,670
little bit of sense because it's a

931
00:46:26,380 --> 00:46:24,229
swampy area and you almost kind of

932
00:46:30,539 --> 00:46:26,390
associate a swamp with this sort of

933
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:30,549
primordial Jurassic Park type thing and

934
00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:35,119
you know there was always a long you

935
00:46:39,370 --> 00:46:37,369
know what wasn't just like one person

936
00:46:42,449 --> 00:46:39,380
saw something it would be something that

937
00:46:45,429 --> 00:46:42,459
be documented in multiple newspapers

938
00:46:48,999 --> 00:46:45,439
multiple witnesses you know often

939
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:49,009
something that would span a long period

940
00:46:54,299 --> 00:46:52,160
of time so in the case of Hockomock

941
00:46:58,769 --> 00:46:54,309
swamp that's where I saw the most

942
00:47:01,809 --> 00:46:58,779
concentrated flying stuff as far as

943
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:01,819
something that would be more flying

944
00:47:07,220 --> 00:47:04,240
humanoid like moth

945
00:47:10,410 --> 00:47:07,230
and I didn't find a lot of those

946
00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:10,420
specific ins in the swampy areas and

947
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:12,630
that seemed you know that seemed to be

948
00:47:19,710 --> 00:47:16,930
more well I mean none of this is very

949
00:47:22,410 --> 00:47:19,720
consistent but you know in the case of

950
00:47:24,510 --> 00:47:22,420
Mothman or whatever I mean you know

951
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:24,520
McClintock wildlife areas got swampy

952
00:47:29,310 --> 00:47:27,250
areas but as far as right in terms of

953
00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:29,320
what I would what I did in the book was

954
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:33,250
look for literally the where swamp was

955
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:36,810
of the prevalent geographic

956
00:47:43,350 --> 00:47:39,040
characteristic but I didn't find in

957
00:47:48,890 --> 00:47:43,360
those cases where I had really hardly

958
00:47:51,870 --> 00:47:48,900
any flying humanoid accounts yeah at

959
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:51,880
Hockomock that that Bridgewater triangle

960
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:55,930
area in particular there's a lot of

961
00:48:03,450 --> 00:47:58,330
crazy stuff that comes out as well

962
00:48:05,490 --> 00:48:03,460
puppies and little people and it's you

963
00:48:07,950 --> 00:48:05,500
know I would surprise me they hear about

964
00:48:10,500 --> 00:48:07,960
pterosaur settings and in there as well

965
00:48:13,230 --> 00:48:10,510
but you know this pterosaur phenomenon

966
00:48:15,590 --> 00:48:13,240
and I think it goes back way back as

967
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:15,600
well because there have been stories for

968
00:48:21,090 --> 00:48:18,160
several hundred years of these these

969
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:21,100
beings being seen especially on the on

970
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:28,480
the west and of course you know Chad

971
00:48:37,130 --> 00:48:30,370
Lewis documented and wrote the book

972
00:48:40,580 --> 00:48:37,140
about the about the studying in Iowa the

973
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:40,590
van Meter yeah the van Meter visitor

974
00:48:51,140 --> 00:48:45,010
very interesting and you know of course

975
00:48:56,270 --> 00:48:51,150
that area is it also has caves and such

976
00:49:00,200 --> 00:48:56,280
so you know it does seem that these

977
00:49:02,970 --> 00:49:00,210
these pterosaur like beings are

978
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:02,980
definitely something that may very well

979
00:49:07,710 --> 00:49:04,930
be going on cuz you know we've run into

980
00:49:10,170 --> 00:49:07,720
a lot of that in Illinois doing looking

981
00:49:12,750 --> 00:49:10,180
into this winged humanoid phenomena and

982
00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:12,760
of course there's there been the legends

983
00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:16,049
of the rope'n out in Papua New Guinea

984
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:18,660
years and years it does seem like

985
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:21,170
something that very well could be an

986
00:49:29,269 --> 00:49:27,089
actual an actual being yeah I think so I

987
00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:29,279
mean a couple of years ago Ken Gerhard

988
00:49:34,729 --> 00:49:31,849
and I went up to Oklahoma and

989
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:34,739
interviewed two sets of witnesses that

990
00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:39,689
had seen a pterosaur like flying bird

991
00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:42,529
and they described it in terms of

992
00:49:48,140 --> 00:49:44,609
literally it looked like a pterodactyl

993
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:48,150
that didn't have any feathers looked

994
00:49:55,689 --> 00:49:52,170
leathery you know had a pointy type head

995
00:49:58,819 --> 00:49:55,699
and all that stuff and it was in both

996
00:50:01,579 --> 00:49:58,829
sightings there was two people in both

997
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:01,589
of those sightings that saw the thinning

998
00:50:07,789 --> 00:50:04,079
at the same time and that's me you don't

999
00:50:10,579 --> 00:50:07,799
often get that where you have multiple

1000
00:50:12,709 --> 00:50:10,589
witnesses in two things and both of

1001
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:12,719
these sets of witnesses did not know

1002
00:50:17,390 --> 00:50:14,640
each other and what they were describing

1003
00:50:20,299 --> 00:50:17,400
and the time period they cited it was

1004
00:50:23,689 --> 00:50:20,309
very close together in terms of

1005
00:50:26,689 --> 00:50:23,699
geography and in terms of time and it's

1006
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:26,699
like we're both just like you can't make

1007
00:50:34,039 --> 00:50:29,729
this stuff up these people you know they

1008
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:34,049
didn't Susan that hoax or can't be a

1009
00:50:38,539 --> 00:50:34,890
coincidence

1010
00:50:39,859 --> 00:50:38,549
whatever they saw seemed to be the same

1011
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:39,869
thing and it seemed to be in the same

1012
00:50:48,739 --> 00:50:43,920
area so while we can't defend the police

1013
00:50:50,989 --> 00:50:48,749
say it was a pterosaur it seemed as

1014
00:50:53,870 --> 00:50:50,999
though it was and these witnesses were

1015
00:50:59,809 --> 00:50:53,880
adamant and very credible and what they

1016
00:51:02,890 --> 00:50:59,819
talk well from anywhere from your area

1017
00:51:06,469 --> 00:51:02,900
in Texas south down into Mexico I mean

1018
00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:06,479
these winged cryptid sightings are just

1019
00:51:13,459 --> 00:51:07,920
legend I mean there are just so many

1020
00:51:15,140 --> 00:51:13,469
different ones you know let alone all

1021
00:51:17,509 --> 00:51:15,150
the other crazy stuff people would see

1022
00:51:19,929 --> 00:51:17,519
especially in the hill country you know

1023
00:51:22,910 --> 00:51:19,939
you talked about the hill country in

1024
00:51:26,839 --> 00:51:22,920
Texas and of course you I've gotten some

1025
00:51:28,819 --> 00:51:26,849
very interesting Bigfoot sightings and

1026
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:28,829
reports in that area as well but there's

1027
00:51:36,530 --> 00:51:29,770
a lot of us

1028
00:51:39,660 --> 00:51:36,540
going on there also yeah I mean it's

1029
00:51:44,490 --> 00:51:39,670
it's one of those places in Texas is big

1030
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:44,500
so yeah you have a very wide variety of

1031
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:47,440
phenomenon just encompassed in one state

1032
00:51:53,340 --> 00:51:51,250
you know all the way from you know

1033
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:53,350
certainly Bigfoot is prevalent

1034
00:52:02,130 --> 00:51:59,920
- there's goat man legends there's down

1035
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:02,140
in this in the southern portion along

1036
00:52:07,890 --> 00:52:05,050
the Rio Grande you've got the you've got

1037
00:52:12,930 --> 00:52:07,900
Thunderbirds you've got pterosaur

1038
00:52:17,130 --> 00:52:12,940
sightings you've got the zoo so chuza

1039
00:52:20,490 --> 00:52:17,140
it's like yeah kind of a howl like

1040
00:52:25,070 --> 00:52:20,500
entity that's sort of to be a sort of

1041
00:52:28,170 --> 00:52:25,080
part part folklore legend part ow

1042
00:52:30,330 --> 00:52:28,180
cryptid where you you've got in fact

1043
00:52:32,450 --> 00:52:30,340
I've got a witness then I was in Laredo

1044
00:52:37,170 --> 00:52:32,460
which is right on the border of Mexico

1045
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:37,180
some years ago on tour and some guy told

1046
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:40,090
me about this this event with this kind

1047
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:44,530
of giant Howell type thing and so just

1048
00:52:49,590 --> 00:52:46,450
about everywhere I go in Texas I mean

1049
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:49,600
you can you can find some some really

1050
00:52:55,830 --> 00:52:53,530
strange stuff going on just about any

1051
00:52:57,300 --> 00:52:55,840
area I don't know what it is about the

1052
00:52:58,410 --> 00:52:57,310
radio but I've gotten some weird

1053
00:53:02,940 --> 00:52:58,420
sightings Laurita

1054
00:53:05,790 --> 00:53:02,950
I'm the UM the man array shaped flying

1055
00:53:10,830 --> 00:53:05,800
beings I've had a couple reports in

1056
00:53:14,730 --> 00:53:10,840
Laredo I actually had a a moth man

1057
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:14,740
standing Mothman type sighting in Laredo

1058
00:53:19,530 --> 00:53:17,650
I don't know what it is but they just

1059
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:19,540
that just seems to be an area and I

1060
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:21,370
guess if I'm there the whole way up into

1061
00:53:26,070 --> 00:53:24,010
the sand into any of that whole southern

1062
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:26,080
Texas area it's just loaded with stuff

1063
00:53:31,290 --> 00:53:28,690
of course you know I've I've had this

1064
00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:31,300
t-rex mini t-rex sightings for years

1065
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:33,910
coming out of there and of course Ken

1066
00:53:39,330 --> 00:53:35,770
can tell you the same thing there's so

1067
00:53:40,590 --> 00:53:39,340
much coming out of there I I just I

1068
00:53:43,530 --> 00:53:40,600
believe it's just one of the major

1069
00:53:47,340 --> 00:53:43,540
hotspots in the United States

1070
00:53:51,210 --> 00:53:47,350
oh yeah absolutely it keeps us busy down

1071
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:51,220
here I mean yeah yeah people will ask me

1072
00:53:56,850 --> 00:53:54,610
if I'm going to write about you know

1073
00:53:59,850 --> 00:53:56,860
something like the Jersey Devil for

1074
00:54:02,970 --> 00:53:59,860
example and I'm like well you know while

1075
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:02,980
I like that the legends and the

1076
00:54:08,250 --> 00:54:06,730
sightings and stuff but I like to my

1077
00:54:11,090 --> 00:54:08,260
books you know people know that I

1078
00:54:13,470 --> 00:54:11,100
usually go to their to the places and I

1079
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:13,480
boots on the ground so I'm like man I

1080
00:54:19,020 --> 00:54:15,850
got so much here I'm become so busy down

1081
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:19,030
here that I don't know if I need to go

1082
00:54:26,430 --> 00:54:22,290
to do Jersey it's like yeah I would have

1083
00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:26,440
I've been there but you know but yeah

1084
00:54:33,470 --> 00:54:29,110
it's there's just so much going on in

1085
00:54:36,180 --> 00:54:33,480
any one area that that you know we

1086
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:36,190
literally we're just as busy as we could

1087
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:39,310
possibly get I know I know you have the

1088
00:54:44,370 --> 00:54:41,050
same problem is ooh there's just not

1089
00:54:46,980 --> 00:54:44,380
enough time in the day or the finances

1090
00:54:50,310 --> 00:54:46,990
to follow up on all the stuff that we

1091
00:54:53,010 --> 00:54:50,320
get that seems like worthy of following

1092
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:53,020
up you just can't you couldn't follow up

1093
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:55,570
on all of it I just wish I could send

1094
00:55:01,380 --> 00:54:59,200
somebody to every piece and report that

1095
00:55:06,570 --> 00:55:01,390
areas to receive I mean unfortunately

1096
00:55:09,060 --> 00:55:06,580
it's just impossible to do that but it

1097
00:55:11,610 --> 00:55:09,070
is amazing some of the stuff and some of

1098
00:55:13,220 --> 00:55:11,620
the credibility high credibility of some

1099
00:55:15,450 --> 00:55:13,230
of these witnesses

1100
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:15,460
you know people definitely seen

1101
00:55:20,070 --> 00:55:18,130
something I don't know if they really

1102
00:55:23,820 --> 00:55:20,080
understand what they're seeing enough to

1103
00:55:26,370 --> 00:55:23,830
give you a description that makes any

1104
00:55:28,380 --> 00:55:26,380
sense a lot of times but they had

1105
00:55:31,650 --> 00:55:28,390
definitely seen something or they they

1106
00:55:33,810 --> 00:55:31,660
think they've seen something and you

1107
00:55:38,340 --> 00:55:33,820
know I I kind of give everybody the

1108
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:38,350
benefit of the doubt when they're okay I

1109
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:43,810
guess to possibly figure out what they

1110
00:55:53,370 --> 00:55:48,690
saw right yeah I mean even you know and

1111
00:55:56,190 --> 00:55:53,380
you know over the years I've interviewed

1112
00:55:57,390 --> 00:55:56,200
enough people that you know I can I can

1113
00:56:02,550 --> 00:55:57,400
pretty much tell

1114
00:56:04,460 --> 00:56:02,560
the ones that have seen something that

1115
00:56:08,310 --> 00:56:04,470
can't be explained and the ones that

1116
00:56:12,570 --> 00:56:08,320
perhaps are wanting to see something

1117
00:56:15,690 --> 00:56:12,580
again where to put it but they were by

1118
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:15,700
and large most reports are very credible

1119
00:56:20,670 --> 00:56:18,850
and and the fact is is and that's the

1120
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:20,680
thing people think that uh you know

1121
00:56:25,470 --> 00:56:22,960
people people are making this stuff up

1122
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:25,480
is like nonsense now we can't prove what

1123
00:56:31,950 --> 00:56:30,010
they saw you know but you you I can say

1124
00:56:33,870 --> 00:56:31,960
with a certain degree of confidence that

1125
00:56:36,690 --> 00:56:33,880
they saw something and it wasn't normal

1126
00:56:38,310 --> 00:56:36,700
it was something they they're trying to

1127
00:56:40,020 --> 00:56:38,320
find answers for and that's why I'm

1128
00:56:44,310 --> 00:56:40,030
recording these things and that's why

1129
00:56:47,850 --> 00:56:44,320
only a story because there they they

1130
00:56:49,980 --> 00:56:47,860
themselves can't quite explain it and

1131
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:49,990
while we don't have a you know we can't

1132
00:56:54,810 --> 00:56:52,810
just pull a oh here's a pterosaur

1133
00:56:57,330 --> 00:56:54,820
carcass this is probably what you saw

1134
00:57:01,020 --> 00:56:57,340
you can't offer offer on that kind of

1135
00:57:03,090 --> 00:57:01,030
closure but at least we can say hey you

1136
00:57:04,350 --> 00:57:03,100
know you're not the only one that seen

1137
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:04,360
something strange that can't be

1138
00:57:14,790 --> 00:57:10,570
explained and that's that I think is you

1139
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:14,800
know something that can has a that keeps

1140
00:57:18,780 --> 00:57:17,110
us the drive to keep doing it because

1141
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:18,790
we're you know you can be confident that

1142
00:57:23,810 --> 00:57:21,490
people have seen these things and it's

1143
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:23,820
not just some made-up phenomena

1144
00:57:29,970 --> 00:57:26,650
well the book is sinister swamps

1145
00:57:32,310 --> 00:57:29,980
monsters and mysteries from the mire you

1146
00:57:35,790 --> 00:57:32,320
said it's most likely going to be

1147
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:35,800
released in two weeks or so yeah there

1148
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:38,170
was some slight delays on the thing

1149
00:57:45,150 --> 00:57:42,970
it'll be out I'm hoping to two weeks it

1150
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:45,160
was originally May 19th but I think

1151
00:57:52,590 --> 00:57:48,730
we're looking or at like make 28 is

1152
00:57:55,950 --> 00:57:52,600
probably the date but either way you

1153
00:57:58,290 --> 00:57:55,960
know if people you know follow me follow

1154
00:58:00,360 --> 00:57:58,300
my coffee page on Facebook or

1155
00:58:02,490 --> 00:58:00,370
what-have-you though there will be grand

1156
00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:02,500
announcements here in the next couple of

1157
00:58:08,250 --> 00:58:04,960
weeks system when they can grab a copy

1158
00:58:10,620 --> 00:58:08,260
of this so it will be certainly uh don't

1159
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:10,630
let everyone know well I look forward to

1160
00:58:12,810 --> 00:58:11,170
reading

1161
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:12,820
it does sound like it's a very

1162
00:58:17,820 --> 00:58:14,650
fascinating book a lot of different

1163
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:17,830
stuff I haven't even heard of so I I

1164
00:58:25,290 --> 00:58:21,130
hope the best for you with the sales and

1165
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:25,300
they reviews on this now I know you have

1166
00:58:33,450 --> 00:58:27,910
a lot going or not going on the futures

1167
00:58:37,110 --> 00:58:33,460
for is going to events anything else

1168
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:37,120
going on do you have any do you have any

1169
00:58:45,210 --> 00:58:40,510
films projects that are coming up with

1170
00:58:49,710 --> 00:58:45,220
in particular small town monsters yeah

1171
00:58:51,500 --> 00:58:49,720
that's one thing that's that we seth has

1172
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:51,510
not been slowed down too much on

1173
00:58:56,540 --> 00:58:53,890
production of some of the new movies

1174
00:58:59,370 --> 00:58:56,550
that he's working on and I will be

1175
00:59:02,550 --> 00:58:59,380
narrating the upcoming film called the

1176
00:59:05,340 --> 00:59:02,560
Mothman legacy oh yeah I missile as a

1177
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:05,350
follow-up to our small command at Point

1178
00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:07,090
Pleasant we did and several years ago so

1179
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:09,220
I'll be the narrator on that so that

1180
00:59:15,780 --> 00:59:12,610
that would we'll be working on that this

1181
00:59:18,060 --> 00:59:15,790
summer yeah I had a few other things

1182
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:18,070
that not only of course events have been

1183
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:20,170
canceled or postponed postponed but I

1184
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:23,200
was I was supposed to do a PBS special

1185
00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:26,050
on the boggy creek case which that

1186
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:29,760
filming got indefinitely on home mhmmm

1187
00:59:36,330 --> 00:59:33,760
unfortunately a lot of stuff is just you

1188
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:36,340
know been postponed for now but I'm sure

1189
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:40,000
as always once it picks back up I'll

1190
00:59:44,610 --> 00:59:42,130
have more to do than I can possibly do

1191
00:59:46,740 --> 00:59:44,620
so well I'm quite sure a lot of us I

1192
00:59:50,010 --> 00:59:46,750
could be very busy when this this thing

1193
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:50,020
clears out because there has been so

1194
00:59:55,230 --> 00:59:52,650
much has been delayed because of it so

1195
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:55,240
um you know when things start getting

1196
01:00:00,600 --> 00:59:56,650
going again I'm definitely gonna have

1197
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:00,610
you back on and yeah but you know that

1198
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:03,490
that Mothman legacy seems to be gonna be

1199
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:06,640
a very interesting film I referred a few

1200
01:00:13,110 --> 01:00:11,170
witnesses to to set for that and it's

1201
01:00:14,940 --> 01:00:13,120
out I'm the premise itself sounds like

1202
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:14,950
very interesting so I'm glad you're

1203
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:17,130
doing the narration on it that's great

1204
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:20,650
yeah yeah I look forward to that and you

1205
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:22,720
know he just gets better with every film

1206
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:25,130
and the whole team is

1207
01:00:30,850 --> 01:00:28,130
really done a great job on these and I'm

1208
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:30,860
certainly glad to be a part and I'm glad

1209
01:00:36,310 --> 01:00:34,010
that I as a companion film to the multi

1210
01:00:40,530 --> 01:00:36,320
metal Point Pleasant be able to narrate

1211
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:40,540
off men legacy and sort of have that

1212
01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:44,690
book in together so while thanks for

1213
01:00:50,020 --> 01:00:46,640
coming on the show again and I hope

1214
01:00:52,330 --> 01:00:50,030
we'll be talking soon absolutely enjoy

1215
01:00:54,690 --> 01:00:52,340
it well you take care now and you have a

1216
01:00:58,420 --> 01:00:54,700
good weekend thanks so much

1217
01:01:00,010 --> 01:00:58,430
mmm now if you have an unexplained

1218
01:01:01,660 --> 01:01:00,020
encounter sighting feel free to contact

1219
01:01:03,970 --> 01:01:01,670
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1220
01:01:05,740 --> 01:01:03,980
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1221
01:01:07,390 --> 01:01:05,750
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01:01:12,070 --> 01:01:09,700
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1224
01:01:15,790 --> 01:01:12,080
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1225
01:01:18,130 --> 01:01:15,800
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1226
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1227
01:01:23,230 --> 01:01:20,900
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1228
01:01:24,850 --> 01:01:23,240
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1229
01:01:27,550 --> 01:01:24,860
Blackburn for joining me this evening

1230
01:01:29,530 --> 01:01:27,560
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1231
01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:29,540
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1232
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